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2 Samuel 8:4; 10:18

Horsemen and chariots: Samuel, the Greek and Chronicles

In 8:4 the Hebrew has 1,700 horsemen; the library's Greek and 1 Chronicles 18:4 have 1,000 chariots and 7,000 horsemen. 4QSam-a is reported to agree with the Greek. In 10:18, Samuel has 700 chariots and 40,000 horsemen; Chronicles has 7,000 charioteers and 40,000 foot.

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Every witness, in order

  1. Unknown (debated)

    Original Samuel

    – No copy survives

    No original survives.

  2. Composed c. 4th century BC

    1 Chronicles (parallel account)

    ✓ Contains this passage

    How the site knows this: Read in the site's library text: Westminster Leningrad Codex, a digital transcription of the Leningrad Codex, quoted here in English.

    a thousand chariots, and seven thousand horsemen (1 Chr 18:4); seven thousand men which fought in chariots, and forty thousand footmen (1 Chr 19:18)

    A parallel account, not a manuscript of Samuel.

  3. Translated c. 2nd century BC; revised (kaige) from 11:2

    Septuagint, 2 Kingdoms (library text: Giguet's French)

    ✓ Contains this passageTranslated from a Hebrew text of the period

    How the site knows this: Known here only through a translation.

    David lui prit mille chars, sept mille cavaliers et vingt mille piétons (8:4)

    David took from him a thousand chariots, seven thousand horsemen and twenty thousand foot

    One Greek text (Vaticanus type) via Giguet's French; not checked against a critical edition.

  4. Mid-1st century BC

    4QSam-a (4Q51)

    ◐ Contains part of itDescends, through lost copies, from Original Samuel

    How the site knows this: Reported in scholarship; not checked by the site.

    Reported (DJD XVII) to read 1,000 chariots and 7,000 horsemen in 8:4. Not checked here.

    Source: F. M. Cross et al., Qumran Cave 4.XII: 1–2 Samuel (DJD XVII, 2005)

  5. c. AD 400

    Jerome's Vulgate

    ✓ Contains this passageTranslated from Hebrew texts of Jerome's day

    How the site knows this: Read in the site's library text: Clementine Vulgate (1592 edition).

    mille septingentis equitibus, et viginti millibus peditum (8:4)

    1,700 horsemen.

  6. AD 1008

    Masoretic Text (Leningrad Codex)

    ✓ Contains this passageDescends, through lost copies, from Original Samuel

    How the site knows this: Read in the site's library text: Westminster Leningrad Codex, a digital transcription of the Leningrad Codex.

    אֶלֶף וּשְׁבַע־מֵאוֹת פָּרָשִׁים וְעֶשְׂרִים אֶלֶף אִישׁ רַגְלִי (8:4)

    1,700 horsemen and 20,000 foot soldiers

    No chariots counted, though 8:4 goes on to hamstring the chariot horses.

  7. 1611

    King James Bible

    ✓ Contains this passageTranslated from printed Masoretic Hebrew

    How the site knows this: Read in the site's library text: King James Version (1769 text).

    a thousand chariots, and seven hundred horsemen (8:4)

    Inserts "chariots" from Chronicles while keeping "seven hundred."

What changed, and why

The Hebrew of 8:4 likely lost the word "chariots" and changed a number; the Greek and Chronicles agree. In 10:18 the two books differ in both number and type of troops. The site reports the readings without forcing agreement.

What the evidence shows

  • Independently documentedThe library's Greek has 1,000 chariots and 7,000 horsemen in 8:4. One Greek text (Vaticanus type) via Giguet's French; not checked against a critical edition.
  • Strongly supported4QSam-a agrees with the Greek in 8:4. Reported.

    Source: F. M. Cross et al., Qumran Cave 4.XII: 1–2 Samuel (DJD XVII, 2005); 2 Samuel 8:4 and 1 Chronicles 18:4 compared (Bible Gateway) ↗

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